This episode of Inner Nature is a warm exchange between old friends, Erin Geesaman Rabke and Leilani Navar, who, throughout this hour, weave together deep ecology, taoist cosmology, and the wondrous physical and emotional experience of being alive in a living world. 

Erin and Leilani are both students of deep ecologist Joanna Macy and The Work That Reconnects—a network of people committed to participating in the healing of our interdependent world. Throughout this conversation, the pair invites you to settle into the home of your body, to experience how intimately connected it is, both physically and emotionally, to the natural world, and to consider how that relationship offers a deep well of strength and love that we can tap into to help us attend to the needs of these trying times. They also offer a resounding reminder that, often, what is not okay for our future is actually not okay for our present.



About Erin and Leilani


Erin Geesaman Rabke describes herself as a somatic naturalist—a practitioner who integrates embodiment methods for healing into individual and community settings and the wider, wild world. She is the co-founder of “Embodiment Matters”—an organization that hosts retreats, classes, a podcast, and mentoring.

Leilani Navar is a practitioner of acupuncture, herbal medicine, and dreamwork. She is the host of “Turning Season,” a podcast featuring news, stories, and conversations with people remembering and reimagining life-sustaining ways to be human on Earth. She is also the Assistant Director of the School for the Great Turning—an organization that hosts events fostering personal empowerment and planetary care.